Wed, 19 Mar 2008|
At FDIC 2007, Chief Halton interviews Captain Mike Wilbur of the FDNY.
I -- welcomed on the road -- Harlem and we're live from FDIC 2007. I was fortunate enough to -- -- what my good friends from that the NY kept my it will work you all know Mike's writings on vehicle safety opera specification. Driver training structural firefighting. My accident talents and skills from the -- we're real happy to have with us here back again -- FDI CT nation. He's just -- -- or member of the instructor community. In America today he's a guy who leads the ways you know a whole -- safety initiatives as far as. Everything to do with driver training driver operator actions and even apparatus specifications seat -- you name it. We're gonna talk with Mike Mike -- to -- a few minutes so we seem all that Russians because -- -- to -- -- classroom. When you can't FDIC we've fraudulent rented mule and -- up to the next and -- going to in the bathrooms downstairs after he finishes up his. Thank you Mike thanks for being with us on the road thank you chief and hasn't gone to conference -- for -- so this. This is awesome if you if there's -- conference today. Please come to the FDIC it is. And mother of all conference's it is just have been registered great week so far -- -- thank you for you get I don't know actually teaching today our -- -- -- safety it's eight topical. It in the past two weeks we've had five firefighters killed and rejected. During -- over type activities -- -- features -- Richard one's gonna be paralyzed for the rest of his life. Six children are spotless four wives -- us homeless because it that's this week's activities and we really need to stop the carnage we're really do that's one week just two weeks to 222 weeks two weeks activities its -- -- two weeks and it's rollovers. Preventable in your opinion -- seat -- seatbelts. All the occupants. -- that did not have seatbelts. Had some kind of injuries or death we had a one apparatus roll over the state of Pennsylvania. -- well we're buckled in. That you think are picked up period to yield on the part of the civilian vehicle they got it spun around and rolled over everybody -- -- the -- -- -- -- CNN -- portion of this morning a civilian passed away this morning goodness yes into the civilian has to weigh in our hearts and prayers are the winners and losers -- -- you know. You're more involved it's not our fault it's. Now we rule on these and any emotional burden on the operator because of you know we're in the business of saving lives and so when we take -- -- and performance over to you so. But -- hearts go out to the operator's well -- and the -- on -- the apparatus because -- they're gonna have to live with not so that's a total proved. I know you're doing some research seatbelts right now -- -- -- -- don't -- -- our -- deserve. What your thoughts are -- going to be -- -- luck with the and -- we gonna get to where you got in a -- the system so that people can start the apparatus. No I I I don't think anybody wants that on. We're gonna have black boxes in the apparatus probably by the year 2010. And -- tell how many people aboard the truck when they got on whether they were -- in. Our seat belt initiative and I'm -- yes we're really excited. About that -- national -- firefighters foundation has. -- some funds together we've partnered with my gosh. General dynamics of that the space shuttle. On the air force. And total contact the company -- does body scanning. And we are are in the process of phase two which is static collection scanning -- 180 firefighters from across the country. We're going to scare. -- and this is gonna have a dramatic impact on CD. Seatbelts. Breathing apparatus -- -- -- inside the kids the apparatus. And this pilot study which we've embarked on -- will be finished by October is the basis the foundation. Three larger 2000 person on -- study. And this and I are studying. Chief is is really going to change the face of safety and fire fighting for for decades to come. We're gonna do -- -- motion study. We're going to do 2000 body skins upwards of 2000 body scans and we're gonna do health and wellness -- I think this is. Nobody has studied firefighters. Like they're gonna be studied affect nobody's ever studied firefighters at all. And this is our opportunity. To get some really smart people. On that have -- you know partnered with us. And not taken our safety to the next what what's really exciting. You know essentially -- we're talking your daddy don't firefighters. Just haven't conversation this -- you know. Guys right -- -- buffalo just can't understand that these are well and we've got to get our -- -- This is if you don't have to get -- -- -- -- truck this moment he's -- -- -- the far end of my heroes would and you put it on when you get to the fire. Is initially mindset that do a lot of guys understand how vulnerable they are inside that -- Right now I think it's just on our our our our personal makeup of people that we attract -- firefighters we've got this. This invincibility about us it won't happen to us it happens in the other -- happens in big cities. Com I happen. Five times in the last two weeks was voted yes and it and it. -- career firefighters to a volunteer firefighters there were fire trucks they weren't GOP's -- really runs again it's everybody's issue problem. Let's just -- took me under my boy -- hasn't been in combat pilot -- -- whole deal I was asking him about how -- response you know -- a lot of work with. Science people who are -- systems listed. What's are -- -- -- your flaws that you don't do the same way every time. It's what happens is in the -- -- it would get a rescue guys and you scrambling. He's it's no different than any other take -- it's the same way it's the same -- it's the same procedure it's always the side. And I so that's interest in essence. -- -- for you guys there's a lot more variables because different people different. You know different arrangements -- Policy and procedure and routine and drill -- -- that's what makes the difference. I I agree -- -- wholeheartedly. And it is difficult but I don't think it's anything that we can overcome. No we can't. We will there we have to -- out with your help them absolutely and thank you relieve the -- What else you working -- And redesigned. Fire trucks and seat belts and just teaching and and consulting and it really trying to make that the fire service a better place and and and you have a whole -- -- that the world's best fire instructors here and I'm -- to be here with them. And I -- some of the best in the business and we will -- the same thing. On to make sure as he that -- -- via their fair the national -- firefighters and everybody goes well. I don't think there's too many people who -- going to more funerals and myself personally and it's time to stop its -- just got to stop. That that the package that -- the the carnage that we leave behind you know what's interesting is if you don't put seatbelts on that's personal choice achievement. And I'm like a structural firefighters that goes -- to make a rescue and -- in the process. He's a hero but there's nothing provoke about becoming a projectiles. Fire truck. We -- at the end of the day. The end result is to see you both -- And there are -- issues there -- financial issues there are your children. -- white relatives and even firefighters themselves it's it's a tremendous. Mess that you leave behind because you make the choice not to buckle up. War on health and -- -- you make a choice to -- two dozen of donuts instead of war. Are you make a choice to drive -- instead of driving reasonably and -- -- choices -- and and they have a negative and. And formed projectiles can he -- -- you as well. That's a couple more -- as -- as a few more questions okay. I'll get your class on time trust me the way for him. I don't -- You're you're still working on a job outside of everything else likes the accountants and lieutenant tells -- got a 127 and brought myself on the -- and how's how's life in FT and one of these days. Life is good we -- not lot of new people there's a lot of energy a lot of excitement on the job. Com a lot of trading nitrate morning -- six years -- -- get my first twenty. -- would do an exciting things like hazardous material response confined space training. And special ops kinda stuff that's really I find it -- -- interest in a -- and I'm involved with that. So we'll not know right about you for a little bit if you if you want to get great training. You get like -- -- -- because and and you call now if you wanna do this column now because I call them. Was eighteen I'm sorry 20032000. React obviously -- condition 2005. And it really took a lot of it is August and I heard about the department -- moved on to retire -- you're -- content to -- -- area I've got a very moved on and and you were gracious enough to do -- the guys they're just absolutely through really change that department thank uses. It's my you know my adopted home now Booker -- and I think the world and you made it safer for those guys. There were great guys great guys -- really this and they were ten have. They changed a lot of policies and procedures based on what they've learned so what it is dynamic department -- up and coming -- got a lot of great people enough. And it was content because anything you know I don't use it was unity -- -- -- -- -- in on the remembered all this. If that should -- what's up next for you anything. -- particular to new book perhaps. -- that's gonna be certain -- seat -- thing has been really consuming and and and every top yes but our question by. Lot of wrong. With between across fourteen inches psoriasis. We're comfortable Iowa who decided nobody there's no science literally behind anything that we've done so essentially Norris. Musical they're in this TVA's because people in -- riding on elevators. Can use them flow on an opportunity work. But it had nothing to do with firefighting and everything to do with people working in the mine -- Mine Safety Appliances. And that's for -- regulation came from back in the early sixties that that number came from reality is near -- twelve -- fourteen minute -- -- we called thirty. And -- based on leaders -- so a lot of our fire service stuff it is anecdotal. We're getting better. Right and and this is really gonna go a long way and to helping him -- What happens with the start uses that they can project fell 2030 years so the information we gather now is gonna make it safer for decades to come monster com. -- -- you gotta teach and -- -- you don't wanna believe. We -- regardless they say thank you Tribune on the road with -- appreciate it thanks chief. That's being on the road volley home and we'll see -- next.