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Week in Review: Jim Dalton Interview

Mon, 5 Mar 2012|

Chief Bobby Halton discusses recent firefighting news and talks to Jim Dalton of the Chicago Fire Department about current ventilation research being conducted at UL.

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All right thanks for click -- us miners are all witnesses that we can review. This we will bring brought to you by FDIC. The fire department instructors conference. Only 44 days away from the largest annual fire fighting training conference on world. -- -- 500 instructors coming to present. When he hands on training sessions seventy workshops -- 200 classroom sessions. This year promises to be the largest and most successful conference in the 84 year history and the -- Spaces filling up fast. Several classes already completely sold out so make your plans today be part of history. 84 FDIC. April 16 it's when he first in beautiful Indianapolis Indiana. FDIC dot com and register today the most rewarding fire service training at your career. That's a guarantee. I'll see you there. And now to the news. There's several articles on -- engineering dot com. Thank you ought to take the time to read -- and also look at the links that are provided for the traditional information and related stories. In particular barrel -- authorities are conducting a probe into the arson fire that injured seven prince George county are. Another story that everybody should look at it comes to us out of Camden, New Jersey. We're three our artists were injured as they were beginning to descent into a basement. Three separate explosions -- reported and -- -- it was call. All -- are counted for. -- were transported pro life threatening injuries are going to be who we need to remember that based are always very significant risk that our orders. And managing these -- requires experience. Coordination. Oral assessment conditions. Take the time you sell your -- -- take a good look at this story. You know you know you can't keep a good man down. As reported last week Chicago fire commissioner -- are resigned as commissioner after serving for 35 years. -- Bobby is back. He's on the job working Carol Stream Illinois as the deputy chief of operation. Always working alongside his old friend -- -- service legend amber all of who's the chief Carol Stream park -- We wish Bobby tremendous success. -- position and Carol Stream. On -- very somber -- The recent school shooting in Ohio should remind -- are under. To review under active duty shooter policy. And make sure you review the local law enforcement agencies. This is just not mean dusting off the old policy in the future we know what you're supposed to do it means contact the local PD. And asking them to sit -- for a few hours and go over what -- expect from what we can expect. From them. When we encounter an active shooter. -- -- -- protocols are so important -- young people lost their lives and that's terrible tragedy and the more we should be prepared war. Our thoughts and prayers go -- the elements of those young students who are allies but we know that the airports medics who responded. That probably made a huge difference. The fact that more children. Didn't -- -- each story coming to us out of Kansas -- -- -- city managers proposing to staffing of the Kansas City -- apartment by her position. You see Archie smokey Dyer has spent the last eleven years opting facilities and helping to modernize the Kansas our apartment. Smoke he's an old friend and world class -- You can read -- -- he says and you can trust says read this compelling or -- current affairs and our country. And how it's affecting public safety and public service delivery and -- I'm very very disturbing. Tensions continue to rise and all society which represents our partners at -- -- Who monitor. Racial diversity issues -- the NY over particularly are hiring practices and racial discrimination. -- service's long known for being colorblind. Occupation. And that's how we approach -- job and pretty much how we approach one dollar. Most of these racial issues arise from outside influences. The only control the rank and -- our leaders either from course well intentioned albeit misguided outsiders or people with political agendas. Really do these issues come from inside and what do it's usually dealt with -- and effective. The story to really starving as it was reported the New York Post. White firefighter candidates were turned -- training session being held by the all society for the firefighter and six. The -- of society claims that three nights prior they didn't allow white or white fire and -- to attend. But on this particular night they'd run out of room and white firefighter candidates were turned away -- -- -- Martin Luther King's at a past we should judge people solely on the content of their character and -- -- partners. And now. Here's a brief interview we it was Chicago or are also the chief researcher Jim -- -- is an old friend and someone who are -- it's a great deal on that -- research projects well. Jim's gonna discuss relations studies that are currently and -- you Alba. As well as some of the information studies revealing regards the conditions when -- -- When conducting various routine service tactics such as -- search she will discuss some of the earlier -- studies. From an upcoming release of that report. This is a great short in -- you hope you enjoy. It's following -- -- -- -- you well labs were doing revelations studies were monitoring what's going on out here today. And we're pleased to be joined by our good friend -- Dalton from the Chicago Fire Department. And Jim what do you see -- -- -- to what surprised you this morning with some of the studies that some of the testing we did this morning anything. At these addressing you see the types of fire behavior with in the full scale structures. Today you know also on Monday they had some tests relative to fires on the second bedroom area. And how the smoke with the second veteran art and property you're moving in the first floor. This is an ideal condition because your laboratory controls from the environmental considerations. There's an inference here that talks about what ending here to the fire can do in terms of changing the fire dynamics dramatically in a very short window of time. I think -- the other day what this is all going to do is reinforce some of the things we do on the fire round today. Couples controller coordinate the way our operations proceed in terms of the application of water the coordination of search and rescue teams. This is all good information and well documented the departments -- applicant CO applies to their tactics. Yet I think we saw some things -- confirm what a lot of us had known anecdotally through experience. You know if you finally it is atlas the smoke and heat conditions -- at least more tenable. But was -- to news to see what the true environmental conditions were in the bedroom just adjacent the first. Catastrophic conditions I was I was shocked at how much auction was too soon. And he. I always thought that the it would replenish itself in some way but it clearly didn't drop to levels were just. Non non survivable three and 5% and in the room and joining the -- Which was something surprising to -- -- it we're only seeing one part of the fuel packaging and these fires to answer you're looking at one room of content that's generating a lot of pressures within these buildings. So there is a lot of toxic smoke and -- -- strewn throughout the building. There's also been in the research both previous project in this project terrible conditions behind a closed door. We are firming some of the assumptions that we have a -- occupants to get within -- nicely conditioned on the second floor. If they're able to close their interior door you know the researchers -- that buys them about five minutes -- ten ability. And the operation are you get from point a to point B today and -- -- -- -- becomes part of the picture and controlling the -- dynamics a look at the rescue profile. So trying to figure out what some of the flow patterns might be. Is chronicled trying to figure out our search approach to some of these. Factors that might have closed doors and also does a lot of credibility to the yes side of the argument where if you can get to a close but from door from the exterior. Make that search you could have viable patients. Yeah and if you look at the previous research project that relates to these two structures in this -- figures to consistent results. With regard an isolated -- You've been part of this is the -- -- -- of them -- with the characters -- given to we've just like 2005 we remember and stuff down for a long time here in Chicago together. And and we've learned a lot of from the wind driven flame fronts there governor's island New York you know to Toledo burns an hour. Back -- you all doing -- internal lab. What's next what -- What would you like to see next. I think what you're gonna see you were looking at the collapse issue and we looked at it comprehensively the 2012 this project were about to release. Looks at the performance of exposed for assistance both the Latin dimensional lumber and -- for systems. We looked at independent elements we -- -- -- as we went to full scale town house burns -- we had a building we constructed on the East Coast. And then we do acquired structure burns so we looked at it comprehensively in terms of scale and also the -- interaction of a standardized fire. Today dynamics you have with speculation conditions that are modified much like here with a prediction for synthetic fuel fire -- in the room. -- those results are probably pending within the next sixty days and that's gonna give some more information to the -- process in terms of what we did last year. We now have passive protection for you and your plumber components we don't have for dimensional Embree in the quote cycle. I think the full scale information that we're about to release is gonna -- that. Any combustible floor system a contributes to the fires fuel and B has the potential for collapse -- the operational timeline. -- need to identify the location of the fire weather that fires involve the structure trying to isolate her confinement fire to the area of origin. Evaluate the -- systems before we operate on top whenever possible. And also consider combustible attic -- as a potential. Hazard on the -- program. It's amazing occupation when you consider the dimension. Of decision making -- and the mention of knowledge that the average firefighter has to bring. To the -- -- -- from afar -- command level officer you're responsible for your safety and the safety of those around you. -- really have to be thinking you really have to be paying attention he really need to be aware alert and and constantly reevaluating. The conditions around you and. And I think what we also have to do is we have to question our current teaching models for adult -- Problem summits research is moving -- enters -- almost a full time job for someone on your department. To translate that information into your operating procedures took -- to a company level. Then the question becomes. Is it awareness level training you're doing is a comprehensive level training what type of interaction how many times you need to review the information before on the fire -- to make a decision in real time. There's another if you project for working and it's looking at digital simulations. To look at that type -- scenario. Because a lot of people of therapy awareness level that still -- -- killing pit decision at 3 o'clock in the morning in real time you've got to continue to -- information more than once. Well thank you very much Jim we're with Jim dog run at you you -- labs and Jim is the head researcher for the Chicago Fire Department is Chicago farm and he's an engineer. And one of the greatest assets the American -- or yesterday at an instructor and FDIC this year -- -- -- be there myself and -- and corporate director training will be out there as well and he pandora is a -- -- present -- on Wednesday so if you'd like to your. And then he's also gonna keynote presentation once they -- to wanna see some of Chicago's finest and have a chance to learn from these gentlemen -- on that really the cutting edge of science in the fire service FDIC's the place to be this year and thank you for doing enough for us thank you -- -- -- Well I hope you enjoyed -- interview which of -- remember we just 44 days away from the greatest firefighter training experience in the world. FDIC 2012. Be part of history make a difference in your own career in the career of those around you. Don't miss this opportunity. Going to FDIC dot com and register today I'll see you at Indianapolis April 16 121. My name's Bobby hall and remember please. Be careful out there.

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