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Ward, Brian-Transitional Attack, Does it exist

Tue, 12 Nov 2013|

Ward, Brian-Transitional Attack, Does it exist


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[BLANK_AUDIO] Thank you for previewing my 2014 FDIC presentation. Transitional Fire Attack: Does it Exist? My name is Brian Ward, I'm the Chief of Emergency Operations for a private industrial facility in Madison, Georgia. I also serve on the International Society of Fire Service Instructors, Board of Directors as the director at large. I like to take a second to thank the FDSC staff, Bobby Holton, Diane Feldman and all the people that worked with them, for giving me the opportunity to come back and teach again. Thinking about the people that have walked the stages, that have talked with classrooms, the knowledge, the experience. It's very humbling and I am greatly appreciative. Transitional fire tech, does it exist? The background for my force was based on the iniss research in 2013. The international society of fire service structures received AFG grant to conduct this research and experiments. With the South Carolina Fire Academy and Nest. The basis of this research was to look at several fire service myths, but then also to put the science with the actual fire fighting. So one of the things we were able to do, and a very unique thing about burning these eight houses, was that we were able to put fire ground operations. In motion at the same time, we had scientists with oxygen probe, temperature probes, infrared cameras, live cameras. And looking at all the different things that were happening inside the structure, while we were looking at the outside, while we were actually fighting the fire. But having a scientist with the fire ground operations and being able to discuss things. Really gave us a, an insight into what's really going, going on inside the structure. I believe it's Benjamin Franklin that said that experience is at the cost of blood and grief]. Traditionally, we've always been, we've learned from experience. Especially when it came to strategy and tactics, what worked, what didn't work. We had numerous fire service veterans, 30 years, 40 years experience that, over time, develop the knowledge and experiences to know what worked with particular fires, particular structures, and they used that and they taught it. But now we're able to actually put some of the science with what's happening on the fire ground. One of the things that, that I noticed during this research was, we, we talk about offensive attacks and defensive attacks and generally an offensive attack is, very aggressive, interior, firefighting. A defensive attack is more of a surround and drown or exterior attack. And then we have this thing called Transitional Attack where we go from one mode to the next. And through and throughout various stages of the incident, this can occur. But what I would like to talk about in throughout this course and I got videos and we'll talk about different things that will back up this. This information is, is there really such thing as a transitional attack? If I make an offensive, aggressive exterior attack into a, ext, through an exterior window with all expectations of going interior. To continue in that tack is it really a defensive, and then go into an offensive, or is it an offensive attack from the very beginning. In some of the things that we looked at throughout this, this research, it kinda helps back up that, that mentality for me, or that mindset, is different things about compartmentalizing not only a room, but being able to compartmentalize a structure. Understanding what the flow paths are. You know, where's your intake? Where's your exhaust? How can you shut off the flow path to the structure without being on the inside? You know, if I can make an aggressive offensive attack from an exterior window point of origin, and take the temperature, a room that's fully involved with a temperature of 2000 degrees. Hit it for 30 seconds with 125 gpm nozzle and drop it down 500 to 1000 degrees and then make entrance to the front door and I'm not having to take the beating of a 2000 degree temperature. That will do anything defensive. Or was it all offensive and always using the science and the understanding of flow paths, bi-directional flows. Where is my intake, where is my exhaust? Where's the neutral plane? And thinking about it from a different mentality that maybe hitting from the outside is best, knowing me. Well, what about the occupants inside that structure? If I can drop for a 1000 degrees in the point of origin, what's the temperature difference in an adjacent room and what if there is a ship [INAUDIBLE]. And at some of the research that we did also, that room that was 2000 degrees we shut the door on purpose in a adjacent room and it never got above 100 degrees. Throughout the class, throughout this presentation, I'll be able to show you the video, the experiments, I'll be able to show the pictures of what we did. What the the buildings or the structures wore, how we lit the fires, what the test equipment was. You'll be able to hear Dan [UNKNOWN], Steve Korver in the background. Kind of calling a play by play, of what's going on, while we're fighting the fire. And it's just, that's a very unique opportunity. Not only, be able to, read about it or see it, but to be there and be involved with it. So this is the things that I'd like to talk about, and if we change the mentality of firefighters and going, Well if it's defensive, cuz that's the last thing a firefighter wants to do is go defensive. But, if we can say, this isn't a defensive attack, this is an offensive attack from the exterior, and we have all the teachings of going interior making this, but we've gotta be smart about it. We've gotta understand what these flow paths or how do we cut it off? Why don't we take the oxygen away and make it a ventilation limited fire, and how does that help us and what does that mean for us on the fire ground? Hopefully [UNKNOWN] Benjamin Franklin, that cost of blood and grief won't be so high to get that experience. We have some knowledge and we can help out with that learning curve. But thank you for previewing my 2014 FDIC course, I think I'm out of time now. I hope to see everybody there, I know it's going to be a great time. Thank you again for previewing, thank you for the people that gave me the opportunity. Thank you.

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