THE I. A. F. E. PROCEEDINGS

THE I. A. F. E. PROCEEDINGS

Official Record of the Doings at the Annual Convention of the International Association of Fire Engineers—Chief Frank G. Reynolds of Augusta, Ga., Chosen Second Vice-President—Chief Peter B. Carter, Camden, N. J., Re-elected Treasurer

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FOURTH DAY—FRIDAY, JUNE 27

Morning Session, Continued

PRESIDENT ROZETTA—Gentlemen, we will proceed according to the constitution.

CHIEF MONROE—Then I make a motion that we suspend that rule and vote by roll call.

PRESIDENT ROZETTA—Why, that’s what it is. Gentlemen, we will proceed with the roll-call.

Thereupon the secretary called the roll of accredited members according to states, each member as his name was called rising and voting the name of the candidate he desired, a tally being kept by the tellers.

CHIEF DELFS—I desire permission, while the tellers are making up the votes, to say a few words in regard to this voting system. If we have to vote on every candidate in the same manner we will be here for a week. Now then, gentlemen, you don’t have to do that. The by-laws permit you to change your voting system. And I want to give notice of a motion to change the method of voting for the next year, therefore, I move, Mr. President, that we change the voting system for the following year and that the incoming president appoint a committee of seven to present suggestions for a less cumbersome and more satisfactory method of voting, so that when we come to the election next year we may not have to vote in this manner.

CHIEF BOYD—I want to say that this is the fairest way to cast a ballot that I know of. I do not mean to insinuate that any man would cast a vote to which he is not entitled; but I know I have friends throughout this hall and many times I have had to vote against dear friends. I think the squarest way is to stand up when they call your name and vote for whom you please.

PRESIDENT Rozetta—The motion, Chief Delfs, has not received a second. The tellers are now ready to report. Gentlemen, please come to order until these announcements can be made. I shall call on the tellers to inform you now of the result of the vote on second vice-president.

CHIEF RINGER—The total number of votes was one and ninetysix, of which Chief Bywater received ninety-two and Chief Reynolds one hundred and four.

PRESIDENT ROZETTA—Chief Reynolds, having received the largest number of votes cast, being a majority, I legally and constitutionally declare him to be second vice-president for the ensuing term.

CHIEF BYWATER—Mr. President, I ask the privilege of this convention to make a motion.

PRESIDENT Rozetta—You are granted that privilege.

CHIEF BYWATER—I move you, Mr. President and gentlemen of the convention, that the election of Chief Reynolds to the office of second vice-president be made the unanimous choice of the organization. (Carried.)

CHIEF REYNOLDS—Second vice-president-elect, Mr. President, and gentlemen of the International Association, I wish to thank you for this very high compliment; and I can assure you that I will co-operate with the officers and do everything in my power to make the next convention a complete success. Again I thank you, gentlemen.

PRESIDENT ROZETTA—The next order of business is the election of a secretary for the ensuing year.

CHIEF TYSON—Mr. President, it has been my privilege on several occasions heretofore, and I now again place in nomination our esteemed and reliable friend, James McFall.

CHIET —I move you, Mr. President, that the president be authorized to cast the ballot of the association for Secretary McFall, making it unanimous.

PRESIDENT Rozetta—Gentlemen, your present secretary, James McFall. has been placed in nomination for secretary for the ensuing year, and a motion has been made that the president be instructed to cast the vote of this body for James McFall as secretary for the ensuing term. Are there any remarks? All those in favor signify by saying “Aye”. Contrary, “No”. The motion is carried. Gentlemen, it now becomes my pleasant duty to cast the vote of this association for James McFall, and I declare him constitutionally and duly elected secretary for your association for the ensuing term. Now, gentlemen, you have one more officer to select, your treasurer. What are your wishes?

CHIEF MURPHY, of Philadelphia—I had the pleasure last year and the honor of putting in nomination Peter B. Carter, chief of the Camden fire department. New Jersey, and I again put before this body the name of Chief Peter B. Carter.

On motion the nominations were declared closed and the secretary instructed to cast the vote of the association for Peter B. Carter, treasurer for the ensuing term.

SECRETARY MCFALL—It gives me pleasure, gentlemen, to cast the vote of this association for Chief Peter B. Carter for treasurer for the ensuing year.

PRESIDENT ROZETTA—I declare him duly elected treasurer for the ensuing year. Now gentlemen, we come to the important matter of selecting our next place of meeting.

CHIEF RINGER—I would just say, if I may be permitted, that in these times of uncertainty, during the period of reconstruction and unrest throughout the country, it would seem to me that we are hardly prepared to look a year ahead and say at this time where this convention should be convened next year. Therefore, I ask your indulgence for just a moment while I move, with one qualification, that the selection of the time and place of the meeting of next year’s convention be left to the president and board of directors. That qualification, however, is that if you see fit to vote down that proposition, Minneapolis extends you an invitation, without any flowery speech or going into details as to what they will do for you, because you all know me well enough to know the reputation of the northwest and Minnesota and that you will be taken care of. And I remind you that we have a very worthy neighbor, St. Paul, wherein we have our very good friends H. C. Devlin and Frank Whitmore to help us. I have made no campaign on the subject, but if you wish to choose the town at this time, instead of leaving the choice of the place to the president and board of directors, then I do extend to you that invitation.

PRESIDENT-ELECT KENLON—I second that motion.

PRESIDENT Rozetta—It has been moved and seconded; are there any remarks?

PRESIDENT-ELECT KENLON—In seconding that motion I have this in mind, gentlemen, that the program which has been made out here today cannot be in any manner anticipated. There is no living man who can tell what the result of this plan may be, and I think it would be wise to defer at the present time the selection of the place of meeting. It is all in the interest of the organization anyhow, and I am perfectly willing to go anywhere that you may select; but I really think it would be the wiser policy to defer that just at the present time. We have a whole year of work before us, and we are not going to go home from here today and wait until the next convention, because within thirty days I shall have filled every one of those committees. I shall expect suggestions from the chairmen of the different committees. I have subdivided the country into sixteen grand subdivisions, each of which divisions one of you is chairman over, and I will want your help in the appointment of the committee in that subdivision and get you all working so that you can report it to Chief Delfs, and Chief Delfs reporting to me. Now we are going to start right now to build up, and I think it would be a very wise thing for you to defer your very generous impulse to select a place now, because I really think that next April or perhaps next March would be a much better time, when we see the result of our work up to that time. For that reason, gentlemen, I second the motion of Chief Ringer. I think it is a wise motion and a good thing to do at the present time.

PRESIDENT Rozetta—Are there any further remarks?

CHIEF SANDIDGE—I think we have had quite a hot siege of it here, and I don’t see what selecting the place has to do with the work or what time we hold the convention. I think this convention should have a say of where they want to go. I believe in giving this convention a chance and in giving every man in here a chance to vote, and you can work your work up, and when the time comes to settle what you want to do, then you can settle it. Give us a chance to say wnere we want to go in this convention.

PRESIDENT ROZETTA—Gentlemen, you have heard this motion, are there any further remarks?

CHIEF JOHNSON—I believe that you men and all the officers elected by you men will work to better advantage if you know where you are going next year than if you do not, and put off the selection of a place for six months or nine. I think it is a good thing for the attendance at the convention that we should know in advance where we are going.

CHIEF KESSLER. Oklahoma City, Okla.—I just w nt to serve notice on you that it may be about a year or two from now Oklahoma City will want this convention. And I want to say to you right now that I think it is the wiser thing for us to vote in this association on the place of meeting. I am here to vote right now for the location of that convention next year.

PRESIDENT Rozetta—Those in favor of that motion made by Chief Ringer that the selection of the place for the holding of the next convention be referred to the president and board of directors signify by saying “Aye”. Opposed, “No”. I declare the motion to have been lost.

CHIEF TYSON—I have been requested to place in nomination the metropolis of one of the great states in this Union, celebrated for many things, for its fine horses, good whiskey, lots of tobacco—–

A voice—“There won’t be any whiskey then.”

CHIEF Tyson—Never mind. What do I care about that—and it was my intention when I first came here to make a strong fight and a long fight for Louisville, Kentucky, my native home. At the present time I am not residing there; temporarily I am in Virginia ; but I always have a soft spot for the town in which I was born and raised, and I am sure, if you had selected the city of Louisville, the spirit of hospitality that would have been extended to you would have been appreciated by every man in this convention. It has been nearly thirty years ago since you honored my esteemed and revered friend. Major Edward Hughes, by coming to Louisville to hold your meeting. A few years after that the convention was taken to Montreal, Canada. Now we all know that this is an international association. It is very true that Canada has had this meeting place since Louisville has had it, but at the same time the United States has had it for thirty years or more since Canada has had it. Now I am a very generous fellow and there is a fire chief in the Dominion of Canada—I don’t live up there— but he has been one of our most faithful members and has attended our meetings and has always been an enthusiastic member, and has rendered efficient service at the head of that section of this organization; and I now wish to state, gentlemen, that under the existing conditions I wish to withdraw the name of Louisville, and I wish to thank all of those loyal friends who, in the beginning, promised to vote for Louisville, and I wish to transfer that strength to Toronto, Canada. And I wish to serve notice now to everybody present that in 1920, if the Lord spares me, I will come forward and ask your indulgence for just a short time to place in nomination the good old city of Louisville in 1920.

SECRETARY MCFALL—I think I owe this association an apology, having been one of the five men who brought this convention here, on account of the weather we have. But, gentlemen, we must remember that our reception here has been as warm as the weather. I came to the directors’ meeting with an official invitation in my pocket from the city of Atlantic City, from the Director of Public Safety. But when I arrived here I found three of the five directors already pledged to Kansas City, and I kept the invitation in my pocket and voted for Kansas City. So I am not saying that I did not vote. But I am here to say that I propose for the next convention the city of Atlantic City, N. J. And I know that we will be properly taken care of there; if you get heated you have all the Atlantic Ocean to go in, and I assure you upon my return to Philadelphia I can begin the arrangements for this matter, because I know they are very anxious there to have us come and will be very glad to have us there next year. Now I have no objections to going to Toronto, but I want first to get back the membership that we have lost. At Providence we had twelve hundred men, and in Chicago a little more than four hundred—I believe four hundred and eighty-eight. The fire chiefs are close to Atlantic City. There are more fire chiefs east of Philadelphia than there are in the entire United States west of there. Now we have only brought two hundred and twelve old members to this meeting. You will have four hundred old members if you go to Atlantic City or somewhere in the East. That is my sole and only object in proposing Atlantic City. You have said time and again that you did not want to have entertainment, but wanted to go to places without solicitation. I give you the opportunity, and I know that Atlantic City will receive you well and will provide for your entertaining.

T. R. JOHNSTONE, of Chicago—Secretary McFall has just spoken about Atlantic City, and has said just what I was going to say about Toronto. You know Toronto is the center of the whole universe, or at least of this North American institution. It is twenty-five years ago since you crossed that border to visit your neighbors in the northeast, and I think we are entitled to it geographically. I am sure if you go up to Toronto and it should be warm there you have the whole of Lake Ontario before you as well as the Atlantic Ocean; but. gentlemen, it is mighty good water in Lake Ontario, Another point: we have gone through a great world’s war and those men up there, when that cry came across the seas of a nation in distress, responded within twentyfour hours of that call for freedom. And among those who responded are men whom we have known right here in this convention year after year. And I tell you we want to go over there and visit them. Now if you come from Chicago you have only got a night’s run. If you come from Buffalo you can take the boat, or, indeed, you can take it all the way from Chicago and go right around there. Why, as a matter of fact, you have almost got to go through Toronto to get to Atlantic City. We should be delighted to have the men come from the West and from the South and from the East and enjoy themselves amongst the good folks in Canada, where we have the finest women in the world and where our men wear kilts. So I say come and spread this spirit of fraternalism and when you get through you will be glad that you have chosen Toronto for your next place of meeting, and I hope you will choose it now. So on behalf of the municipality of North America I extend a cordial invitation to you and guarantee you a good time, and if you don’t you can take my head for a football when you get through.

EX-CHIEF SHERWOOD BROCKWELL—I wish to put in nomination for the place of next meeting of fire engineers and ask that it be held in North Carolina, the Tar Heel State. Talking about heat, I guarantee you will not have any such heat as you have here. As far as being dry is concerned, we have been dry seven years and we still get what we want. Our mayor and the City Commissioners and the Women’s Club and all urgently invite you to hold your 1920 convention in the city of Raleigh, N. C.

CHIEF HUNTER—You will remember that in 1915 I believe it was, in Cincinnati, we had quite a contest between three prominent cities in this country—the city of Cincinnati, the city of Minneapolis, and the city of Scranton, Pa., and also Providence, R. I. Now Providence was the successful city. You remember Chief Ringer put up a strong talk for his city. And I agree that in all fairness, to use an old-time expression, “the East has had plenty of it.” You have got your president, secretary, and treasurer in the East, and your first vice-president from Denver and your second vice-president from the South. Now let’s go up to Minneapolis, Minn., next year, and get a cool place. You would be treated right, I know, so let’s go to Minnesota. I second the nomination of Minneapolis, Minn.

CHIEF MURPHY-1 don’t think I would be doing right to sit here and not let all of you gentlemen know something about the advantages of the East as a place for holding our next convention. Now we have heard the remarks made, and particularly the speech made by Secretary McFall in regard to Atlantic City. Now I want to say that whenever Jim McFall gets so interested as to stand on this floor and make a speech for any particular section or location or person, he is very sure they are all right. Now he has spoken of the invitation to hold our next convention in 1920 at Atlantic City. Now I want to say to you men that are not well acquainted with the eastern section, and more particularly with the coast cities and seaside resorts, that Atlantic City is one of the greatest in the world, and I invite you, in the name of the eastern members of the association, to bring your convention there. As you have been told, should the weather be warm, you have an opportunity to get into the ocean; and there you have the city of Philadelphia close by, which is a very historical city. I don’t want to go into the details of the history of Philadelphia. But there are many things of great interest to be shown you, and I know you cannot make a mistake in choosing Atlantic City. They have everything that is good and grand and beautiful, and I know when this convention comes there anil adjourns, after its sessions are through, you can go away better satisfied than with any city you have ever been in.

PRESIDENT ROZETTA—If I am correctly informed, we have presented to us as places from which to choose a meeting place for next year Atlantic City, Toronto. Minneapolis and Raleigh, N. C. You may now prepare your ballots.

CHIEF HOKFF.R, Little Rock, Ark.—i move you that in casting this first ballot the city receiving the highest number of votes be declared the city chosen, (Carried.)

During the progress of the balloting the following proceedings were had:

SECRETARY MCFALL—Mr. Chairman, I wish to withdraw the name of Atlantic City.

CHIEF RINGER—I desire to withdraw the name of Minneapolis, and, judging from the way the vote is going, I move you that we select the city of Toronto by acclamation.

CHIEF BROCKWELL—I wish to withdraw the name of Raleigh, and to second the motion of the gentleman from Minneapolis.

PRESIDENT ROZETTA—Gentlemen, it has been moved that the city of Toronto be accepted as the place of our next convention by acclamation. Are there any remarks? If not, those in favor signify by saying aye; contrary, no. The motion is carried.

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Gentlemen, I think it would be appropriate to have a rising vote of thanks to Chief Henderson, of Kansas City, for the courtesies he has extended to us.

Thereupon all the members present rose and stood in testimony of their appreciation and as a vote of thanks to Chief Henderson, of Kansas City.

PRESIDENT Rozetta—Gentlemen, is there anv further business to be brought before the convention? If there is nothing further I will declare the Forty seventh Annual Convention adjourned sine die.

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Official Record of the Doings at the Annual Convention of the International Association of Fire Engineers—Chief Kenlon, of the New York City Department, Nominated to the Presidency and Elected by Unanimous Vote

FOURTH DAY—FRIDAY, JUNE 27

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Morning Session, 9:30 O’clock

PRESIDENT Rozetta—In conclusion, I have many reasons why I am under obligations to you. You have conferred the very highest of honors upon me, you have given me your co-operation. Without that my administration would have been a failure. I shall soon be retired to the ranks where I belong, among the bone and sinew of this body. The 47th annual convention will soon be a matter of history. What it has been, is for you, gentlemen, to judge. If there have been any errors made, I assure you the fault was one of the head, rather than of the heart.

I thank you again, gentlemen, from the very bottom of my heart, and all I can do is to pray to the Alminghty, the Creator of this universe, that He may cause His blessings to come upon you, and give you many opportunities, such as we have here today, of extending to one another that grasp of fellowship and comradeship that has characterized this as well as our other con ventions. And while I am down in the ranks again. I wish to say to you that my exertions, my thoughts, everything that is within my power, will be for and go towards bettering the conditions of this association wherever it is possible. In retiring from this chair, as I shall soon do, I heartily wish Chief Kenlon, who, I believe confidently, will succeed me, the highest success. I trust, and am sure, that under his administration the affairs of this association will continue to grow and improve. I thank you. gentlemen. Now, gentlemen, unless there is objection, we will proceed to the election of officers.

CHIEF HENDERSON—I just want one thing from this convention. I want to make the nomination of the next president.

CHIEF OLAF Johnson—Before we close, and pass to the election of officers, may I be permitted to call the attention of the members to this little pamphlet on “Spontaneous Combustion of Coal.” Relating to fires in coal piles. It was made up under the auspices of the United States Fuel Administration and can be obtained from the National Board of Underwriters’ office in New York. I did not have it with me the other day when we discussed the coal fires; but, as you all know, the cities of Duluth and Superior have a large number of coal docks, and we have fought fires up there for many years, and the experience we have obtained is pretty well exemplified in this pamphlet, and for that reason I call it to your attention.

PRESIDENT Rozetta—Chief Johnson presents an article here on “Spontaneous Combustion of Coal. Joint paper by H. H. Stoeck and W. D. Langtry, United States Fuel Administration.” You can very readily obtain this, gentlemen, in case it should not be thought best to incorporate it in our proceedings, from the United States Fuel Administration.

CHIEF HENDERSON, of Kansas City—Mr. President, I find that it is expected that another member shall put in nomination a candidate for the presidency, and I will withdraw my possession of the floor,

CHIEF BENNETT, Trenton, N. J.—Mr. President and gentle men and brother chiefs, it gives ine great pleasure to present the name to you that I presented to this body in 1916 for second vice-president. Today it is my very great pleasure to present to you the name of John Kenlon, of New York fire department, for president of this body for the ensuing year.

CHIEF DELFS, of Lansing, Mich.—Mr. President and gentlemen, it gives me great pleasure to second the nomination of our worthy candidate. John Kenlon. This is just as it should be. My worthy comrade who just preceded me (Chief Bennett) nominated John Kenlon at Providence, as he had told you, and he has served as our second and first vice-president. Now, gentlemen. I want to say to you all that John Kenlon is going to give you an administration second to none; and if we will just work with him I am sure the 48th convention will be the best ever. I therefore move you that the rules of this convention be suspended, and that the Secretary cast a vote for John Kenlon for president of this association.

CHIEF BYWATER—I move you as an amendment that we give a rising vote of this convention to Chief Kenlon as president of this organization.

CHIEF O’NEILL, of Chicago—I move the nominations be closed.

CHIEF DELFS—I accept the amendments.

PRESIDENT Rozetta—Gentlemen, it has been moved and seconded that the nominations be closed and that the secretary of this association be instructed to cast the ballot of this association for John Kenlon, of New York, as president of the association tor the ensuing year, and that you signify your action on this motion hy a rising vote. Are there any remarks? All those in favor signify by rising to their feet. Gentlemen, I declare the motion unanimously carried and the secretary will now cast the vote of this association for John Kenlon, of New York, as president of the association.

Thereupon the secretary cast the vote of the association as directed and John Kenlon as president of the association for the ensuing year.

PRESIDENT-ELECT JOHN KENLON—Our retiring president, and gentlemen, at the outset I wish to congratulate the retiring president on the magnificent manner in which he has presided over the deliberations of this association during the past week. I have a feeling of natural elation that I should be chosen to join that long line of illustrious chiefs that have been selected during the past forty years to preside over the deliberations of this body. As I turn over the pages of the book of proceedings, many times I have scanned the list of past-presidents, and I sincerely hope that I shall be a worthy successor to the illustrious men that have gone before. Needless to say, I have a keen sense, a deep and profound sense, of the responsibilities, and intend to devote every ounce of energy that is me to build up and make this association the peer of anything of its kind in the world. I have, in anticipation of your action this morning, prepared something which, deviating from my usual custom, I shall read.

(Note—The address of Chief Kenlon was published in FIRE AND WATER ENGINEERING of June 25, 1919.—EDITOR.)

CHIEF JOHN MCNARREY, of Kansas City, Kan.—I am not going to give you any speech in presenting the name of a member of this association as a nominee for the place of first vice-president. Every one here knows him and knows just what he is and what he can do. I now take great pleasure in announcing as nominee for the position of first vice-president of this association the name of Chief John F. Healy, of Denver, Colo.

CHIEF ALEX HENDERSON, of Kansas City, Mo.—I second the nomination.

CHIEF OLAF JOHNSON—I had the pleasure a year ago of seconding the nomination of this representative from the Rocky Mountain district. Without further ceremony, I move you that the nominations for first vice president be closed and that the secretary be instructed to cast a unanimous vote of this convention for Chief John F. Healy, of Denver, for first vice-president.

The motion being duly seconded and put was declared carried. Thereupon the secretary proceeded to cast the vote of the association for Chief John F. Healy, of Denver, as first vice-president for the ensuing term.

VICE-PRESIDENT-ELECT HEALY—Gentlemen, I think you don’t want to hear any speech from me after listening to this wonderful paper of our president-elect in regard to our plans for the ensuing year. The best thing I can say to you is, that I shall earnestly come to his full loyal support to the best of my ability and to do all I can to maintain the confidence of his associates. Gentlemen. I trust that durnig the ensuing year the administration, of which it is my honor to be a part, shall receive your full support and confidence, and I shall do all in my power to maintain the confidence you have placed in me. I thank you.

PRESIDENT Rozetta—Gentlemen, the next order of business will be the selection of your second vice-president.

CHIEF WILLIAM R. MURPHY, of Philadelphia—When it comes to the matter of second vice-president, there always appears to be quite a field to make selections from. A goodly custom has been established in taking the officers of the preceding year and encouraging them and promoting them along the line. But this particular office is the stepping-stone for the head of our organization—an organization which has been spoken of so highly in this splendid city of Kansas City for the several days that we have been convening here—an organization which has given onr president. who has just come into office, cause for serious thought and consideration as has been exhibited to you in this masterly paper which he has prepared and presented, the equal of which I do not think has ever been presented as the basis for the work of any organization for the ensuing year. We feel, therefore, that a man of the same type should be coming along in line. I don’t mean to imply that there is but one man to take this place—not at all. There are a number. But at the present time I feel that there is one man due for the position, a man that has given service to this association for a long number of years, has given it in every capacity in which he has been requested to serve, and he has served on the board of examiners and he has served on the board of inspectors and he has served on the board of directors, and when anything at all has been asked of him, he has always willingly given you his services and the very best that was in him. Now, I don’t want to take a whole lot of time in making this nomination, especially in view of the hot weather with which we are contending, but it gives me great pleasure at this time to present to you as nominee for second vice-presidency the name of William Byw’ater, of Salt Lake City, Utah.

CHIEF COLE—I second the nomination.

CHIEF SAM B. BOYD, of Nashville, Tenn.—I am going to be as clever as my friend, and not take any more time than necessary. I want to say that I have never seen a more patient crowd of men in my life under similar circumstances, and it would be out of place for me to stand here and talk to you when I know you want to get away. I am going to present to this convention the name of a man that has done all that the gentleman has done whose name has been presented by my comrade who has just preceded me. For sixteen long years he has attended these conventions and given his time and thought and for the past week he has shown you what that meant in that splendid exhibit down here for which he has been laboring more than a week. I am not here to present a man from any particular section. I care not particularly where a man comes from. In my vote for the past eighteen years I have tried to vote for men that would represent the entire organization. So in presenting this man I am not presenting him from the south, but I am asking that you give that body of men for a quarter of a century who attended these conventions representation. We are going to have a gentleman to represent the east and the New England states and all that implies. We then take a big jump and go over to the west. Now I am going to ask you to give us a man to represent the great southern portion of our country, and take pleasure in presenting the name of Chief Frank G. Reynolds, of Augusta, Ga.

CHIEF HUNTER—I am from Springfield, Ohio, and proud of that as one of the greatest states in the Union; and I take pleasure in seconding the nomination of Chief Frank Reynolds. From a geographic standpoint Ohio is not looking for anything at the hands of this convention. Now I believe that it is proper that you should go south for your next man for second vice-president. I know Chief Bywater, and I know him well. He has been a very efficient man, efficient in his department, efficient in this association; but for the good of this association, and for the good of the democracy of this association, I believe in widening out. Ohio is not looking for anything either in regard to the officers of this association or in regard to the next place of meeting. I think you should be broad enough to look at the thing from a geographic viewpoint, instead of sending everything to the south or to the east or to the west, and try to get a little bit of all. I therefore have the honor to second the nomination of Frank G. Reynolds.

EX-CHIEF SHERWOOD BROCKWELL, Raleigh, N. C.—I wish permission to speak just a word in regard to the nomination of second vice-president of this organization. There have been two names submitted to you, both men whom I have had the honor to know since the first day I wandered into your convention hall. But there is one thought I want every man in this room to remember before he makes up his mind. Now it may seem strange to some of my friends, the action that I am going to take now, and I am going to ask you people your indulgence while I refer to it just a moment. Chief Reynolds comes from the southern part of the United States, and I know him to be a man of the most sterling worth, of undaunted courage and a man of irreproachable character. I know Mr. Bywater, from Salt Lake City, Utah, to have been a wheel-horse in this organization for the last score of years. Now, gentlemen, another truth that I must speak to you before making any further remarks, is that if I have ever made one remark detrimental to either of those two gentlemen I will swear to you it is from the head and not from the heart. I further state to you that I love every flower that ever bloomed in Dixie, but I love them more today because I know that when the boys of the Carolinas and from Tennessee and from Missouri and from Maine and from the Pacific slope and from the east and the north and the south and the west stood shoulder to shoulder and shoved their way through the Argonne Forest, that forever sectionalism was wiped out in these broad United States. Now, gentlemen, I beg you to believe me when I say that there is not a man, no matter how dear, how old his friendship, or not a set of men on God’s green earth that I will put on a par with the principles and policies of this association which is the life-blood of the profession which I and the vast majority of you have chosen as our life’s work. Gentlemen, please do not, in any sense of the word, allow sectionalism or geographic position, if you please, to have any influence on auy action which we will take. I believe it to be the duty of every fire chief in America—and I mean when I say America, just as Chief Kenlon said, the Western Hemisphere—let your action in this case stand out free from any sectionalism, and be guided only by a wish for the development for the principles and policies of this greatest organization of its kind in existence. In closing, I will say to you that both of these men have rendered excellent services to our organization. I would refrain, after the two great talks that have been made here, short as they were, in placing in nomination each of these men, but I ask you to do this deliberately. Don’t make up your minds in a hurry, gentlemen. Let no outside influence bother you. And don’t ever let it be said that any man in the world can ever point a finger at this organization and truthfully say that we have been actuated in any of our deliberations by politics or sectionalism. Forget for the moment that you live in the north or forget for the moment that you live in the south. Forget that you live in the east; but realize only that the same sun that rises and shines down upon the daisies along the roadsides of ihe south shines upon the same daisy upon the western slope; and when you cast your vote here today, cast that vote realizing the true American spirit, just as you do when you put your vote in the ballot box in your ward at home, realizing the same American spirit with which you exercise your right as American citizens to shoulder arms for the welfare of your country. Let your vote in this organization be symbolic of the same spirit, and representing your idea of what the International Association of Fire Engineers is to mean to me and to all the people who are to come here in after years, and vote accordingly. I thank you, gentlemen.

PRESIDENT ROZETTA—Gentlemen, you have placed in nomination Chiefs Bywater and Reynolds. Are there any other nominations?

CHIEF TYSON—I move that the nominations be closed.

CHIEF BOYD—I second that motion.

PRESIDENT ROZETTA—Gentlemen, if there are no objections the chair will declare the nominations closed.

CHIEF BOYD—I ask a vote by roll-call.

CHIEF HARTY—Our constitution provides the manner in which the election shall be held, and I suggest that we do not deviate from the constitution.

PRESIDENT ROZETTA—The constitution provides that the officers shall be elected by ballot. I will appoint to act as tellers Chief Charles W. Ringer, Chief W. C. Shepard, Chief W. E. Bideker and Chief Hesston. Will those gentlemen please come forward. Secretary McFall will call the roll.

CHIEF JOHN H. MONROE, of Savannah, Ga.—Do I understand that we will have to have a formal roll-call? The constitution provides by ballot. If we vote by roll-call on all these officers it will take two or three hours.

PRESIDENT ROZETTA—Gentlemen, there is but one way to do it, and that is to do it right.

CHIEF MONROE—I ask a ruling, and that Secretary McFall read the law.

SECRETARY McFALL.—The constitution names the officers of the association and says that all of said officers shall be elected by ballot at the annual meeting.

CHIEF MONROE—It says they shall be elected by ballot?

SECRETARY McFALL—We can simply call the roll, and each man stand up and say “Bywater” or “Reynolds”.

CHIEF MAGEE—Mr. President, I move you that we go into the election by roll-call, and that each and every man, as his name is called, shall rise and call out the name of the man for whom he votes. (Seconded.)

CHIEF ARMSTRONG—Mr. President, I call for a reading of the provision of the constitution as to elections.

PRESIDENT ROZETTA—Secretary McFall has stated what it is.

SECRETARY McFALL—Article II of the constitution is entitled “Officers”, and Section 1 provides (reading) “All of said officers shall be elected by ballot at the annual meeting.” This is my twenty-fifth convention, and there has never been a secret ballot taken in that time. It has always been by roll-call and getting up and saying who they are are going to vote for.

NOTE—The remainder of the Fourth Day’s proceedings will be published in succeeding issues—EDITOR.