THE I. A. F. E. PROCEEDINGS
Official Record of the Doings at the Annual Convention of the International Association of Fire Engineers—Chief Frank G. Reynolds of Augusta, Ga., Chosen Second Vice-President—Chief Peter B. Carter, Camden, N. J., Re-elected Treasurer
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FOURTH DAY—FRIDAY, JUNE 27
Morning Session, Continued
PRESIDENT ROZETTA—Gentlemen, we will proceed according to the constitution.
CHIEF MONROE—Then I make a motion that we suspend that rule and vote by roll call.
PRESIDENT ROZETTA—Why, that’s what it is. Gentlemen, we will proceed with the roll-call.
Thereupon the secretary called the roll of accredited members according to states, each member as his name was called rising and voting the name of the candidate he desired, a tally being kept by the tellers.
CHIEF DELFS—I desire permission, while the tellers are making up the votes, to say a few words in regard to this voting system. If we have to vote on every candidate in the same manner we will be here for a week. Now then, gentlemen, you don’t have to do that. The by-laws permit you to change your voting system. And I want to give notice of a motion to change the method of voting for the next year, therefore, I move, Mr. President, that we change the voting system for the following year and that the incoming president appoint a committee of seven to present suggestions for a less cumbersome and more satisfactory method of voting, so that when we come to the election next year we may not have to vote in this manner.
CHIEF BOYD—I want to say that this is the fairest way to cast a ballot that I know of. I do not mean to insinuate that any man would cast a vote to which he is not entitled; but I know I have friends throughout this hall and many times I have had to vote against dear friends. I think the squarest way is to stand up when they call your name and vote for whom you please.
PRESIDENT Rozetta—The motion, Chief Delfs, has not received a second. The tellers are now ready to report. Gentlemen, please come to order until these announcements can be made. I shall call on the tellers to inform you now of the result of the vote on second vice-president.
CHIEF RINGER—The total number of votes was one and ninetysix, of which Chief Bywater received ninety-two and Chief Reynolds one hundred and four.
PRESIDENT ROZETTA—Chief Reynolds, having received the largest number of votes cast, being a majority, I legally and constitutionally declare him to be second vice-president for the ensuing term.
CHIEF BYWATER—Mr. President, I ask the privilege of this convention to make a motion.
PRESIDENT Rozetta—You are granted that privilege.
CHIEF BYWATER—I move you, Mr. President and gentlemen of the convention, that the election of Chief Reynolds to the office of second vice-president be made the unanimous choice of the organization. (Carried.)
CHIEF REYNOLDS—Second vice-president-elect, Mr. President, and gentlemen of the International Association, I wish to thank you for this very high compliment; and I can assure you that I will co-operate with the officers and do everything in my power to make the next convention a complete success. Again I thank you, gentlemen.
PRESIDENT ROZETTA—The next order of business is the election of a secretary for the ensuing year.
CHIEF TYSON—Mr. President, it has been my privilege on several occasions heretofore, and I now again place in nomination our esteemed and reliable friend, James McFall.
CHIET —I move you, Mr. President, that the president be authorized to cast the ballot of the association for Secretary McFall, making it unanimous.
PRESIDENT Rozetta—Gentlemen, your present secretary, James McFall. has been placed in nomination for secretary for the ensuing year, and a motion has been made that the president be instructed to cast the vote of this body for James McFall as secretary for the ensuing term. Are there any remarks? All those in favor signify by saying “Aye”. Contrary, “No”. The motion is carried. Gentlemen, it now becomes my pleasant duty to cast the vote of this association for James McFall, and I declare him constitutionally and duly elected secretary for your association for the ensuing term. Now, gentlemen, you have one more officer to select, your treasurer. What are your wishes?
CHIEF MURPHY, of Philadelphia—I had the pleasure last year and the honor of putting in nomination Peter B. Carter, chief of the Camden fire department. New Jersey, and I again put before this body the name of Chief Peter B. Carter.
On motion the nominations were declared closed and the secretary instructed to cast the vote of the association for Peter B. Carter, treasurer for the ensuing term.
SECRETARY MCFALL—It gives me pleasure, gentlemen, to cast the vote of this association for Chief Peter B. Carter for treasurer for the ensuing year.
PRESIDENT ROZETTA—I declare him duly elected treasurer for the ensuing year. Now gentlemen, we come to the important matter of selecting our next place of meeting.
CHIEF RINGER—I would just say, if I may be permitted, that in these times of uncertainty, during the period of reconstruction and unrest throughout the country, it would seem to me that we are hardly prepared to look a year ahead and say at this time where this convention should be convened next year. Therefore, I ask your indulgence for just a moment while I move, with one qualification, that the selection of the time and place of the meeting of next year’s convention be left to the president and board of directors. That qualification, however, is that if you see fit to vote down that proposition, Minneapolis extends you an invitation, without any flowery speech or going into details as to what they will do for you, because you all know me well enough to know the reputation of the northwest and Minnesota and that you will be taken care of. And I remind you that we have a very worthy neighbor, St. Paul, wherein we have our very good friends H. C. Devlin and Frank Whitmore to help us. I have made no campaign on the subject, but if you wish to choose the town at this time, instead of leaving the choice of the place to the president and board of directors, then I do extend to you that invitation.
PRESIDENT-ELECT KENLON—I second that motion.
PRESIDENT Rozetta—It has been moved and seconded; are there any remarks?
PRESIDENT-ELECT KENLON—In seconding that motion I have this in mind, gentlemen, that the program which has been made out here today cannot be in any manner anticipated. There is no living man who can tell what the result of this plan may be, and I think it would be wise to defer at the present time the selection of the place of meeting. It is all in the interest of the organization anyhow, and I am perfectly willing to go anywhere that you may select; but I really think it would be the wiser policy to defer that just at the present time. We have a whole year of work before us, and we are not going to go home from here today and wait until the next convention, because within thirty days I shall have filled every one of those committees. I shall expect suggestions from the chairmen of the different committees. I have subdivided the country into sixteen grand subdivisions, each of which divisions one of you is chairman over, and I will want your help in the appointment of the committee in that subdivision and get you all working so that you can report it to Chief Delfs, and Chief Delfs reporting to me. Now we are going to start right now to build up, and I think it would be a very wise thing for you to defer your very generous impulse to select a place now, because I really think that next April or perhaps next March would be a much better time, when we see the result of our work up to that time. For that reason, gentlemen, I second the motion of Chief Ringer. I think it is a wise motion and a good thing to do at the present time.
PRESIDENT Rozetta—Are there any further remarks?
CHIEF SANDIDGE—I think we have had quite a hot siege of it here, and I don’t see what selecting the place has to do with the work or what time we hold the convention. I think this convention should have a say of where they want to go. I believe in giving this convention a chance and in giving every man in here a chance to vote, and you can work your work up, and when the time comes to settle what you want to do, then you can settle it. Give us a chance to say wnere we want to go in this convention.
PRESIDENT ROZETTA—Gentlemen, you have heard this motion, are there any further remarks?
CHIEF JOHNSON—I believe that you men and all the officers elected by you men will work to better advantage if you know where you are going next year than if you do not, and put off the selection of a place for six months or nine. I think it is a good thing for the attendance at the convention that we should know in advance where we are going.
CHIEF KESSLER. Oklahoma City, Okla.—I just w nt to serve notice on you that it may be about a year or two from now Oklahoma City will want this convention. And I want to say to you right now that I think it is the wiser thing for us to vote in this association on the place of meeting. I am here to vote right now for the location of that convention next year.
PRESIDENT Rozetta—Those in favor of that motion made by Chief Ringer that the selection of the place for the holding of the next convention be referred to the president and board of directors signify by saying “Aye”. Opposed, “No”. I declare the motion to have been lost.
CHIEF TYSON—I have been requested to place in nomination the metropolis of one of the great states in this Union, celebrated for many things, for its fine horses, good whiskey, lots of tobacco—–
A voice—“There won’t be any whiskey then.”
CHIEF Tyson—Never mind. What do I care about that—and it was my intention when I first came here to make a strong fight and a long fight for Louisville, Kentucky, my native home. At the present time I am not residing there; temporarily I am in Virginia ; but I always have a soft spot for the town in which I was born and raised, and I am sure, if you had selected the city of Louisville, the spirit of hospitality that would have been extended to you would have been appreciated by every man in this convention. It has been nearly thirty years ago since you honored my esteemed and revered friend. Major Edward Hughes, by coming to Louisville to hold your meeting. A few years after that the convention was taken to Montreal, Canada. Now we all know that this is an international association. It is very true that Canada has had this meeting place since Louisville has had it, but at the same time the United States has had it for thirty years or more since Canada has had it. Now I am a very generous fellow and there is a fire chief in the Dominion of Canada—I don’t live up there— but he has been one of our most faithful members and has attended our meetings and has always been an enthusiastic member, and has rendered efficient service at the head of that section of this organization; and I now wish to state, gentlemen, that under the existing conditions I wish to withdraw the name of Louisville, and I wish to thank all of those loyal friends who, in the beginning, promised to vote for Louisville, and I wish to transfer that strength to Toronto, Canada. And I wish to serve notice now to everybody present that in 1920, if the Lord spares me, I will come forward and ask your indulgence for just a short time to place in nomination the good old city of Louisville in 1920.
SECRETARY MCFALL—I think I owe this association an apology, having been one of the five men who brought this convention here, on account of the weather we have. But, gentlemen, we must remember that our reception here has been as warm as the weather. I came to the directors’ meeting with an official invitation in my pocket from the city of Atlantic City, from the Director of Public Safety. But when I arrived here I found three of the five directors already pledged to Kansas City, and I kept the invitation in my pocket and voted for Kansas City. So I am not saying that I did not vote. But I am here to say that I propose for the next convention the city of Atlantic City, N. J. And I know that we will be properly taken care of there; if you get heated you have all the Atlantic Ocean to go in, and I assure you upon my return to Philadelphia I can begin the arrangements for this matter, because I know they are very anxious there to have us come and will be very glad to have us there next year. Now I have no objections to going to Toronto, but I want first to get back the membership that we have lost. At Providence we had twelve hundred men, and in Chicago a little more than four hundred—I believe four hundred and eighty-eight. The fire chiefs are close to Atlantic City. There are more fire chiefs east of Philadelphia than there are in the entire United States west of there. Now we have only brought two hundred and twelve old members to this meeting. You will have four hundred old members if you go to Atlantic City or somewhere in the East. That is my sole and only object in proposing Atlantic City. You have said time and again that you did not want to have entertainment, but wanted to go to places without solicitation. I give you the opportunity, and I know that Atlantic City will receive you well and will provide for your entertaining.
T. R. JOHNSTONE, of Chicago—Secretary McFall has just spoken about Atlantic City, and has said just what I was going to say about Toronto. You know Toronto is the center of the whole universe, or at least of this North American institution. It is twenty-five years ago since you crossed that border to visit your neighbors in the northeast, and I think we are entitled to it geographically. I am sure if you go up to Toronto and it should be warm there you have the whole of Lake Ontario before you as well as the Atlantic Ocean; but. gentlemen, it is mighty good water in Lake Ontario, Another point: we have gone through a great world’s war and those men up there, when that cry came across the seas of a nation in distress, responded within twentyfour hours of that call for freedom. And among those who responded are men whom we have known right here in this convention year after year. And I tell you we want to go over there and visit them. Now if you come from Chicago you have only got a night’s run. If you come from Buffalo you can take the boat, or, indeed, you can take it all the way from Chicago and go right around there. Why, as a matter of fact, you have almost got to go through Toronto to get to Atlantic City. We should be delighted to have the men come from the West and from the South and from the East and enjoy themselves amongst the good folks in Canada, where we have the finest women in the world and where our men wear kilts. So I say come and spread this spirit of fraternalism and when you get through you will be glad that you have chosen Toronto for your next place of meeting, and I hope you will choose it now. So on behalf of the municipality of North America I extend a cordial invitation to you and guarantee you a good time, and if you don’t you can take my head for a football when you get through.
EX-CHIEF SHERWOOD BROCKWELL—I wish to put in nomination for the place of next meeting of fire engineers and ask that it be held in North Carolina, the Tar Heel State. Talking about heat, I guarantee you will not have any such heat as you have here. As far as being dry is concerned, we have been dry seven years and we still get what we want. Our mayor and the City Commissioners and the Women’s Club and all urgently invite you to hold your 1920 convention in the city of Raleigh, N. C.
CHIEF HUNTER—You will remember that in 1915 I believe it was, in Cincinnati, we had quite a contest between three prominent cities in this country—the city of Cincinnati, the city of Minneapolis, and the city of Scranton, Pa., and also Providence, R. I. Now Providence was the successful city. You remember Chief Ringer put up a strong talk for his city. And I agree that in all fairness, to use an old-time expression, “the East has had plenty of it.” You have got your president, secretary, and treasurer in the East, and your first vice-president from Denver and your second vice-president from the South. Now let’s go up to Minneapolis, Minn., next year, and get a cool place. You would be treated right, I know, so let’s go to Minnesota. I second the nomination of Minneapolis, Minn.
CHIEF MURPHY-1 don’t think I would be doing right to sit here and not let all of you gentlemen know something about the advantages of the East as a place for holding our next convention. Now we have heard the remarks made, and particularly the speech made by Secretary McFall in regard to Atlantic City. Now I want to say that whenever Jim McFall gets so interested as to stand on this floor and make a speech for any particular section or location or person, he is very sure they are all right. Now he has spoken of the invitation to hold our next convention in 1920 at Atlantic City. Now I want to say to you men that are not well acquainted with the eastern section, and more particularly with the coast cities and seaside resorts, that Atlantic City is one of the greatest in the world, and I invite you, in the name of the eastern members of the association, to bring your convention there. As you have been told, should the weather be warm, you have an opportunity to get into the ocean; and there you have the city of Philadelphia close by, which is a very historical city. I don’t want to go into the details of the history of Philadelphia. But there are many things of great interest to be shown you, and I know you cannot make a mistake in choosing Atlantic City. They have everything that is good and grand and beautiful, and I know when this convention comes there anil adjourns, after its sessions are through, you can go away better satisfied than with any city you have ever been in.
PRESIDENT ROZETTA—If I am correctly informed, we have presented to us as places from which to choose a meeting place for next year Atlantic City, Toronto. Minneapolis and Raleigh, N. C. You may now prepare your ballots.
CHIEF HOKFF.R, Little Rock, Ark.—i move you that in casting this first ballot the city receiving the highest number of votes be declared the city chosen, (Carried.)
During the progress of the balloting the following proceedings were had:
SECRETARY MCFALL—Mr. Chairman, I wish to withdraw the name of Atlantic City.
CHIEF RINGER—I desire to withdraw the name of Minneapolis, and, judging from the way the vote is going, I move you that we select the city of Toronto by acclamation.
CHIEF BROCKWELL—I wish to withdraw the name of Raleigh, and to second the motion of the gentleman from Minneapolis.
PRESIDENT ROZETTA—Gentlemen, it has been moved that the city of Toronto be accepted as the place of our next convention by acclamation. Are there any remarks? If not, those in favor signify by saying aye; contrary, no. The motion is carried.
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Gentlemen, I think it would be appropriate to have a rising vote of thanks to Chief Henderson, of Kansas City, for the courtesies he has extended to us.
Thereupon all the members present rose and stood in testimony of their appreciation and as a vote of thanks to Chief Henderson, of Kansas City.
PRESIDENT Rozetta—Gentlemen, is there anv further business to be brought before the convention? If there is nothing further I will declare the Forty seventh Annual Convention adjourned sine die.